the disaster of the BEF and lack of anti tank capability that was promised in the event of conflict, sadly never materialised. Blocking the straits is a far cry than just a few drone attacks. The ships, which can each carry up to 25 armoured personnel carriers, were deployed three days ago but it remains unclear if they are heading for Ukraine. A group of Russian and Chinese warships were spotted in the Bering Sea several dozen miles off an Alaskan island on September 19, the U.S. Coast Guard said on Monday, confirming Moscow and. Forces would secure control of a canal that provided Crimea with fresh water supplies until Russia annexed the region and Ukraine stopped the flow, he said. It comes after UK dfence chiefs said yesterday they fear Putin will opt for the 'nightmare scenario' of a full invasion of Ukraine as tensions rise towards tipping point. Putin cannot afford a hot war even less than we can. 'The different scenarios for how exactly Russia might seek to persuade the West to meet its (security) demands by punishing Kyiv don't even necessarily include a land incursion,' he said. Food, the are a exporter of food. Tabloid sensationalism Im afraid Tommo. In a meaningful way I mean putting forces on the ground and in the air. I somehow doubt it. With pressure to take a more hawkish stance, he met Nato Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg in Berlin to discuss the next steps. Complex rules of engagement, and a pretty good chance you wont hit the intended target. Today : UK Navy Shocked, 7 Russian Warships off UK CoastNine Royal Navy warships are shadowing seven Russian warships after "unusually high levels of activit. The group of vessels, which remained in international. So can be used if the IIR seeker doesnt see the target. According to French newspaper La Voix du Nord, another Russian tanker appeared to be heading to the Atlantic Ocean, sailing along the Boulonnais coast on the Strait of Dover, 20 miles away from Great Britain. Surely he loses more than he gains. H I Sutton 15 Mar 2022. We should grant him that and make it a reality. Our potential foes are very clever and will exploit gaps. NSM in clear sea lanes, is perfectly suited to keeping enemy at arms length. The phrase, and derivatives of the phrase . Royal Navy shadows NINE Russian warships around UK coast in just 2 weeks . Really poor analysis of a foreign state. He is testing NATO unity and Bidens willingness to risk the wrath of those voters while knowing any faltering step in those voters eyes be it commitment of weakness will bring back a Trump style Govt withRead more , I do wonder if another motivating factor could be something more base than that. Australia just signed an agreement with UK Defense minister to dedicate Wharf and logistics to readily accommodate Royal Navy ships basing them selves there . Erm, theres certain CO of a T23 on TV at the moment who disagrees with you not to mention Radakin hgiving HoC evidence, I havent see the show, so Ill take your word on it, Surely if Russia invades Ukraine theres gonna have to be big increases in defence and security spending were gonna have to reinforce all Eastern European alliance members for that matter any country world wide that feels threatened buy any powerful country, Hi Geordie, Youd think so. Trump was an idiot and poor president. The big question is-could this conflict once started, and if NATO do get involved, be limited to a conventional battle? Although hailing the recent 24.1 billion uplift in Defence spending as reversing a long period of decline, General Carter did not say how much of the new money will fill the existing black hole of around 10 billion in the MoDs 10-year equipment budget. Also the Blockade the Atlantic Iceland gap. I thought you might of recovered somewhat, after that meltdown you had a couple of years ago? I think you have hit the nail on the head. HITLER AND NAPOLEON DID AND LOOK WHERE IT GOT THEM. NOT, should have out an archer. French President Emmanuel Macron has offered to send troops to Romania., https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-60077776. Britain's BBC released footage from the ship showing a Russian coast guard warning that he would shoot if the British ship did not change course. It requires us to hold their backyard at risk, whether thats in the Barents Sea, the High North, the Baltic or the Black Sea.. As the region is already occupied by pro-Russian separatists, and has been in a state of war since 2014, it was believed it would offer little resistance. 'How can we be given a chance to defend ourselves if you're not giving weapons? Helicopters for the littoral, Nuclear boats for larger vessels. Their Intel also saying that they see no particular problem. To Decimate is as you put Dave 1 in 10 ,50% is half which is Dimidium, Cheers Tommo my googlefu is poor however, my google translate fu was non-existent , Over the last third of a century the pollies have dimidiumated the British Army . Dissapointed in Macron, but cant say im surprised. Final talks on NI post-Brexit deal as UK PM meets EU chief - No 10. The ships - which included a . Just been channel hooping with various News outlets and what I can gather is that the Ukrainian public are just getting on normal Living , it would seem that the 24hr News channels are too blame for the So called tensions just like a certain plot for a James Bond movie with Johnathan Pryce as the TV mogul who wants too start a War for Ratings. Sounds like we havent learned any lessons from history! This is a normal response to transiting warships from other nations., Russian amphibious assault flotilla to transit English Channel. The Ropucha-class landing ship can transport 10 main battle tanks and 340 troops or 12 BTRs and 340 troops or 3 main battle tanks, 3 2S9 Nona-S, 5 MT-LBs, 4 army trucks and 313 troops or 500 tons of cargo. Thats what I was thinking, but invading Ukraine probably isnt allowed under international law. "Escorting the Russian task group alongside forces from our NATO allies has demonstrated the UKs commitment to the alliance and to maintaining maritime security. Lets be honest, in hostilities, they wouldnt be sailing unescorted or going through the channel! US truckers are heavily non vaccinated. Published. Just to keep us on our toes. Cheers dave , I think our boss were trying too make us look on the bright side I doubt if the Careers office would have stated that when we signed up, And yet, of all the capability gaps, this one worries the RN the least. Russian Navy ships can be seen in satellite imagery approaching the Ukrainian Coast. But why would Russia deployed troops in Iraq 2003 to save Despot Sadams skin? Preliminary analysis of the vessels suggests 3 groups. Im all for countries determining their own choices, but I can see Putins concerns. I think now the Russians have thrown everything on the table NATO must do the same, no backing down. Ireland tells Russia live-fire naval exercise is 'not welcome' Seizing southern Ukraine could cut Kyiv off from the coast and NATO's presence in the Black Sea, Melvin said, and could play well with Russian nationalists who see the area as the historic 'Novorossiya' lands or 'New Russia'. This alone would send a message and along with the news that an Ohio class arsenal boat is currently sunning of Cyprus when normally the whereabouts is secret says alot. . NSM is able to navigate by GPS, inertial and terrain reference systems. The Black Sea, which Russia uses to project its power in the Mediterranean, has for centuries been a flashpoint between Russia and its competitors such as Turkey, France, Britain and the United States. I apologize if you took offense with my tone, its not my normal voice. Reuters provides business, financial, national and international news to professionals via desktop terminals, the world's media organizations, industry events and directly to consumers. All quotes delayed a minimum of 15 minutes. "We can appeal to common sense, demand respect for international law, and if that doesn't work, we can bomb," Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov told Russian news agencies. Or Major joining Carlisle, Osbornes 8 or so jobs, Miliband joining that charity or Blair on his 1M a year+ all for following the US line? To see all content on The Sun, please use the Site Map. 'This is extremely dangerous. Like wise the Danse could blockade the Baltic as well. The Ukraininans particularly will give a good account of themselves. But do we have the money or willingness in the population to spend what money we have on defence rather than health or social services for example? Broker a deal to have Russian military bases in their country. It is a show of force and plans for a possible invasion. We have historically supported the underdog in the face of the invading bully. Agree entirely with what you say but I feel Trump was the one who emboldened Putin in the first place with his wimpish behaviour and with Biden following and little if any better, then no wonder Putin is considering pushing his luck. I think most would agree Trump was a very poor President and Joe Biden has not covered himself in glory. Any toys the RN requires would magical appear on the Quay side, and the funds suddenly available. 'We have information that indicates Russia has already pre-positioned a group of operatives to conduct a false flag operation in eastern Ukraine,' she said. That was due to the unusually large number of landing craft in the Baltic. Russia is allied with Iran, need I say more. General Carter also said the long anticipated Integrated Review of Foreign, Defence and Security policy, now expected in January, will herald the biggest shake-up of the army in a generation. Giving his annual speech to the Royal United Services Institute, the Defence chief said: They are flexing their muscles in our own back yard with an ostentation they have not displayed since the Cold War. If it doesnt conform to the official line it gets spiked. A string of government websites was hacked on Friday. The True Reason Why 7 Russian Warships off UK Coast - YouTube At talks this week with the United States and NATO, Russia has sought security guarantees to defuse the crisis. Germany doesnt need anything but some supply depots and rear HQs. Its more difficult now given the numbers they have positioned. Russian warships have been pictured off the coast of Britain, en route to a suspected bolstering of the bombing campaign on the besieged Syrian city Aleppo.. Royal Navy vessels were closely . Zelensky thanked Blinken on Twitter after their meeting and said he was counting on stronger 'economic& financial' cooperation from the West. Thats an oversight. George is on Twitter at @geoallison, Comments may automatically be held for moderation by our team, they will be approved as soon as possible in accordance with our. Russian warships filmed off coast of Britain as Royal Navy shadows We are now at a stage where Russia could at any point launch an attack on Ukraine.'. Certainly surprised Germany seems so acquiescent about potentially putting itself back on the front line with only Poland as that buffer again. If Biden had the balls he could put a small contingent of US troops in Ukraine and dare Putin to attack. News Group Newspapers Limited in England No. A Ministry of Defence Spokesperson told me: As part of a unified response with our allies, the Royal Navy are monitoring the presence of Russian Ships as they transit through the English Channel. Resources, they have plenty of their own. I suspect if we dont show strength and unity now the fighting will inevitably come to us. why? An armed Russian warship docked at a harbor in Cuba on Monday as Russia warned the U.S. against causing a repeat of the Cuban missile crisis. Sadly its not nonsense, the number of ships laying off shore is rising. Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO). But then we are talking about a Govt that is all style (and what style that is these days judging by the No.10 makeover) over remote substance and my do those Type 45s look smart and mean when they are out on the water especially when they have a dragon on the bow though Boris would probably add flock wallpaper as camaflage. For further details of our complaints policy and to make a complaint please click this link: thesun.co.uk/editorial-complaints/, Russian corvette Boikiy (back) which was shadowed by HMS Lancaster, A sailor on board HMS Severn monitoring Russian patrol ship Vasily Bykov and in the background submarine Stary Oskol, The Russian corvette Boikiy (front) was followed by HMS Lancaster, Russian warship Vice-Admiral Kulakov which was shadowed by HMS Northumberland, Typhoon jets flying above the Russian warship Vice-Admiral Kulakov, Asailor on board HMS Northumberland monitors Boikiy, Russian warship threatensto ram the US Navys destroyer John S McCain, Royal Navy shadows NINE Russian warships stalking Britains coast in just two weeks, Putin's thugs close in on ravaged Ukrainian city with thousands fleeing as intense fighting rages, Partygate buster Sue Gray's son 'boasting about mum on campaign trail as he tries to unseat Boris Johnson', Suella Braverman vows to stop the boats with new law to crack down on migrants using human rights laws to stay in UK, Runaway mum Constance Marten was 'groomed' by evil Nigerian sect leader, Man 'naked and covered in blood' arrested before mum found 'murdered' at home as neighbours reveal hearing screams, Rishi Sunaks new bill to end the Channel migrant crisis is crucial for the Tories, Leicester 'explosion': Listen to massive 'sonic' boom that shook homes and rattled windows. Clearly I could be wrong on this. Two weeks ago nearly a dozen warships and combat aircraft from Russia's Northern, Baltic and Black Sea fleets gave a "show of force in the waters off the British and Irish coasts" General . Its not a valid comparison in 2003 the Russian was in a post Yeltsin mess and in no way capable of acting as a deterrent to US forces. Global Britain is an illusion. Moscow could launch an attack on Ukraine from Crimea and seize territory up to the Dnieper River that could serve as a natural barrier against any Ukrainian counter-offensive, said Konrad Muzyka, director of the Poland-based Rochan consultancy. A capability upgrade as and when needed, might well happen. The lack of AsUW is a gamble that could prove catastrophic, as bad as the lack of anti-tank weaponry given to the BEF. The fighting units the Russians have deployed are professional soldiers not conscrips. The talks between the two diplomats came just a day after Russia unveiled plans for naval drills involving more than 140 warships and more than 60 aircraft, seen as a show of strength. https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2018/02/chechen-military-police-return-syria-russia.html. Several missiles now fit the bill, but you still need to get round the issue of targeting information before you send it/them on their way. Patrol ship HMS Severn was on duty in the English Channel and Dover Strait, where it shadowed a surfaced Kilo-class submarine, the Stary Oskol, the corvette Boikiy, patrol ship Vasiliy Bykov and support ships. If a shooting war were to start, the Astutes would be at sea ready to start shooting, its what they are for, granted we dont have enough of them, a situation that wont be rectified until SSN(R) comes of the pipeline at the earliest. Normally theres maybe half a dozen ships of the coast of California waiting to be unloaded, last I heard it was over 70. The reason they were happy to get rid was cost. Russkie pension, weekly bucket of spuds and one litre of 2 stroke. production rates are a worry. The conflict in Donbass has killed 15,000 people, Kyiv says. Should they choose to do so. Russia said it had ventured as far as 3 km (2 miles) into Russian waters near Cape Fiolent, a landmark on Crimea's southern coast near the port of Sevastopol, headquarters of the Russian Navy's Black Sea fleet. Putin is getting old and hybrid warfare is fruitful but getting boring. Morning Sean. 'Grateful for [US's] political & security support. On the face of it, Trumps position on the Right of the political spectrum, should have placed him as a hard opponent of the Russians but he was like a contrite schoolboy sitting next to Putin. I think Irans aspirations in the region run much deeper than having mild cooperation with Russia. Boris take a private plane back to London from a climate summit in order to get to a party thrown by a conservative party donor .. is that not more irritating than a child asking the adults toRead more , the swedes attitude to defence equipment and production is very good. Were you not barred a couple of years ago from this site? T31 is being procured to a strict budget, to get these vessels built and in service pretty quick, and we can upgrade once in service if the need requires it, they are large, and will be a very flexible design allowing more kit to be integrated over the years. If Russia did invade the Ukraine, could/would the UK and France deny Russia access through the channel? Western military analysts have suggested Russia cannot keep such troops deployed where they are indefinitely for financial and logistical reasons and would need to pull them back by summer. In comarison with previous pictures those ships are sailing well loaded. Putin has huge domestic discontent for which the Ukraine crisis is a distraction. Their problem then, as now, in terms of getting into the EU, was/is corruption. As this is different from Davids comment below Ill go away and try to get some evidence. As @RB has posted a lack of ASM is not high on the list of RNs priorities, whatever the reasons. That is doing it at hands length, other, more shouted about, is skimming money when still on post and that is an area Ukraine is expert in,Read more , With Russia claiming they arent going to invade, they objective maybe another country altogether. We must stand with our Ukrainian allies., Biden has also authorized $200 million in additional support to meet Ukraines emergency defense needs, according to a U.S. State Department spokesperson. A NATO coalition would see RN surface ships targeted first as the weakest AsUW link in the chain. I am generally centrist and an issues rather than party man and had high hopes for Biden. Kongsberg have said that the NSM will also get the receiver. The RN has learned many lessons over the years, have a little faith. His advanced years are often publicly evident in his performance. Surface vessels Anti ship missiles are effectively back up. 'The current deployments are versatile. It does not stop Russia interfering in/invading Ukraine. The Sentinel 2 satellite image, taken at 11:47 local time, shows at least 14 vessels. I see a German Navy Chief had to resign tonight, for making pro Russian comments. Once there they re establish the picture. The Coast Guard said the ship is . "If you don't change the course, I'll fire," a heavily accented Russian voice said in English to the British ship. When we need European Allies like France and Germany, where are they. A source familiar with the Russian Defence Ministry's thinking said this was the most likely scenario if Moscow decided to attack, but that he was unaware of any such decision. Clearly they have something on him-most probably a secret video of Trump in bed with some Russian beauty! Meanwhile the potential peer foes, Russia and China, were very quietly building up their defensive forces initially and then offensive to a standard able to match a peer adversary. If the RN really wants anti ship missiles, we would get them. WW1 & WW2 were not just ended by fighting but the economic ability of Germany to out produce the allies. Biden-BIG disappointment. I think you overestimated Russias economy Ivan , its smaller than that nutty economy of Italys lol. What sonar or anti submarine equipment will t31 possess? " Russian warship, go fuck yourself " [a] was the last communication made on 24 February 2022 during the Russian attack on Snake Island in Ukraine's territorial waters by border guard Roman Hrybov to the Russian missile cruiser Moskva. At least Ukraine is on a democratic pathway! 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In a sense he might as well go for as much of Ukraine as he can get hold of because the penalties are just the same. Therefore in theory at least for the narrowest Dover-Calais area we could do that. "It is a hypersonic sea-based system - [and the vessel has other] latest-generation weapons. If you remember in WW2 GERMANY wanted to invade us, and we used means of blow up tanks etc to deter them. To what end? He may lose power after a disastrous foreign adventure. See here for a complete list of exchanges and delays. it wont need much of a spark to set it all off. Are Putins dirty secrets going to be revealed? Perhaps all they want is a buffer zone with no NATO assets in sight? UK politicians have been cutting our forces (numerically) once or twice a decade since the end of the Korean War, ie over the last 70 years, not just the last 30 years. Trump kissed Putins behind in every way possible to the point he tried to break our democracy on the 6th of January, 2021. Critics fear it will increase Germany's reliance on Russian energy supplies. There are only two roads from Crimea that could be blocked or destroyed, a potential weakness, he said. Bit long in the tooth-just like David, CR!(says he who is about to turn 73). No Typhoons in Romania at present, but USAF F-15Es there. The Royal Navy has shadowed nine Russian warships around the UK in the last two weeks alone - as Vladimir Putin increases his military presence in British waters. As for unvaccinated drivers not being allowed to cross, well who wouldnt want to keep the chronically stupid out of their country? Moscow has announced the 'successful' completion of tests on its Kinzhal - or Dagger - hypersonic missiles, which can carry nuclear or conventional weapons with a range of 1,250 miles, in the Arctic, though the weapons had been deployed with Russian forces ahead of the trials.
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