Some years it gets a nod, other years the talks are unrelated. Great post, Mark! What do you think when you see a used car lot with a sign like this: Honest Abes Used Cars! Put me in the column of those who think Sacrament Meeting should be about Christ. What to Expect at Latter-day Saint Church Services After church we can give dear old dad a cookie in a baggie and a kick in the pants, call it good for another year, and send him home. When we speak of mothers as people who are incapable of gross sin, they know we are lying. My bishop knows where its at, and we always get Dove bars, Milk for those of unrefined taste and Dark for the rest of us. Actually..mother's day should be everyday. Respect her. Have a variety of ages speak on ideas or what they've done to help their mothers and ways they've stayed close to their mothers. Nourishing both body and souls.Just my humble opinion. By So be kind to her. Since my husband gets to give Most seemed to realize bishoprics are trying and they appreciate any effort. Id like to see the swords beaten into plow shares this mothers day And for once ( just once) the SAHM vs working mom verbal cat claws retracted. End of rant. Regarding the giveaways: in my ward for the last several years, all of the women have been given chocolates on Mothers Day (very nice ones). #28 Love the song choice of I Have Work Enough To Do as a tribute. Mark, This post was positively Uchtdorfian! Ugh. The perfect hymn for Mothers Day Sacrament meeting. I'd suggest that women at various stages in their lives speaking about what the joy in womanhood, being a divine daughter of God means to them in different stages of life, would at least eliminate all that talk and honor of mothers who have lots of children and do everything right that cause so much pain to women everywhere. Actually now that I do have children, the primary song Im so glad when Daddy comes home has taken on a new meaning for me. Didn't Sheri Dew give a talk titled, "Are We Not All Mothers?" The speaker described how she saw her mothertake stock of the smoking wreckage of her life, humble herself, and begin the heroic and difficult work of transforming her life into something she didnt need to be ashamed of anymore. For the injured interceding, And I did use some of the suggestions here. Her mother didnt come across as being perfect, but rather imperfect but faithfully trying, and her simple persistent efforts turned out to be eternally valuable. I remember long ago a young woman spoke on Mother's Day and described her mother as "the mean mother". Mother's Day: My talk by Kaimi Wenger May 5, 2009 23 Comments It's hard to strike the right balance, between affirming Moms who really need to be told that they made a good decision; and letting others (especially women) know that they're okay, too. So, just an FYI to the LDS people here Non-denominational Christian churches focus EVERY day (especially Sunday) on God/Jesus Christ Generally the take home message (this would apply to mothers day s well) is that we are human so we are sinners and if we accept Jesus Christ as our savior then we can hand him our trials (very difficult to do) but when we dont and we are struggling He still loves us. Thanks. I love this. I can only pray no one will take offense, as I certainly never mean any offense. The first speaker was my favorite. Thanks for all your thoughts. #93 Ruth The average of the survey said their bishopric probably spends about $1 per sister for Mothers Day gifts. Beware the philosophies of Hallmark, mingled with scripture. lol. Can anyone say overdone? What do you think should be handed out for Mothers Day? It was the first Mothers Day since she died. Personally, I like cookies. How about honoring our mothers by not just focusing on what they do or have done for us (guilt trip for those that feel they never do enough) but focus on ways the members can help their mothers throughout each stage of their life. each year when I plan the Mother's Day sacrament meeting I feel an extra bit of pressure to make it special for our wives and mothers. Should we have days for every type of individual? Some women think that you dont talk enough about mothers while other people think you talk too much about them. Im amazed that we arent using the most recent conference materials . Although I have the suspicion that he had an ulterior motive of hoping never to be asked to speak again. Ugh.chocolate and cheescake.and NO TALKS!!! I would love tohear from you. Latter-day Saints to Attend Sacrament Meeting Only on Christmas Day Church Newsroom November 10, 2022 Church The First Presidency of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has. If I would obtain the blessing, Please use the comments to make your own contributions. Those were the kinds of talks I gave, and thats what I would rather listen to. Ere the sun goes down. Thats why youve been my cyber-crush for years. Is it apeople incapable of focusing on the joy of others? You can still give the women the day off. What is the trigger to close the thread? It was a great idea and something I will always remember and a great way to honor mothers on Mothers Day. In partaking of the sacrament and making these commitments, Church members renew the covenant they made at baptism (see Mosiah 18:810; Doctrine and Covenants 20:37). Seriously, it would be nice to have some idea. Come on. Never heard it, but I would love somethingalong the lines ofwhat we can learn from Christ and his time with women. Im also a High Councilor, who always tries very much not to speak in rose-colored platitudes that, sadly, you associate with High Council speakers. It very gently re-addressed several of the points that were flying in the newspapers and throughout the church in the Mothers Who Know backlash. I have an aversion to bringing my family's celebration intochurch and causing other women pain. Im catching up on the comments, but Kristines suggestion in #72 is perfect. Pertaining to gifts: #53 Im against handing out plants on Mothers Day. #16 They asked him to speak again?! EOR, I would venture to say, even with being fairly new to BCC that few here mean to give offense. Alece, I also love CS Lewis, and agree that we should look to higher ground in our mortal journey. His explanation was not to offend any sister. Reading over those messages, it is hard to come up with any form of consensus other than, everyone has a different opinion. No love in mortality comes closer to approximating the pure love of Jesus Christ than the selfless love a devoted mother has for her child.. Mark, very good advice IMO. Father's Day Talk in Sacrament Meeting June 21, 2009 - Blogger Is this our Sharon Haynie from DN branch? I find women in general to be compassionate and sensitive to other people and a joy to be around. https://www.lds.org/general-conference/2014/04/wanted-hands-and-hearts-to-hasten-the-work?lang=eng. Even now, 4 years after her passing, I miss her. Inevitably they would be instructed that the gifts were for all women, so theyd try hard to give me one. Just as he was getting into how pornography helped him through the divorce, the bishop stepped up and escorted him from the podium. I have work enough to do, If you want to deal in rose-colored platitudes, you are probably gunning for the high council, so save it until then. My grandmother is my ideal of both a woman and a mother, but she was married to an alcoholic so I understand if she is not the ideal for others. He suffered for the sins, sorrows, and pains of all people, providing remission of sins for those who repent and live the gospel (see 2Nephi 9:2123). The best Mothers Day talk Ive ever heard was an illustration of this principle. Those who are solely focused on their own selfish desires? I have no aversion to motherhood being spoken of in church. I love your idea of wearing different color of flowers. Required fields are marked *. I think mixing it up, at least every other year, from Mother I Love You, is nice as a mom. Tony, thanks! The first one we did was a modified version of "Teacher Do You Love Me". Im even okay when they hand out plants. The best MD talk was from a woman who gave a list of all the things she wished she had known when she was 18. #109 Rayloved the roller coaster quote on motherhood. Being there with my son was very nice. They seemed to love the tradition and I never received negative feedback. This year in our ward we are having a missionary farewell for Mothers Daynot the old kind where the new missionary and all his/her family speak, but the new kind where the new missionary will be given a topic. I wont be attending this Sunday either, but as always will honor my own mother by being the best mother I can be to my hurting children. Theyre all very good, and not being critical, but Hallmark w/ scripture would seem to be one way to describe the style of Pres. Motherhood as a path to choose to be a better disciple of Christ by caring for those Christ loves.feed my sheep, etc.https://www.lds.org/general-conference/2014/04/wanted-hands-and-hearts-to-hasten-the-work?lang=eng. I struggled with infertility for nearly a decade. So for over a decade, Ive loved Mothers Day, just because I know it wont end with all of us crying. It defines our very identity, our divine stature and nature, and the unique traits our Father gave us.. I dont remember all 18 things, but two of them stuck with me, even 15 years later. To the light the lost ones leading, I would expect him to give a talk like that because he is so utterly black and white in his thinking and he never heard a strict utterance over the pulpit that he did not love. More often than not, his assumption is correct. The hard part for me is when I hear talks about angel mothers where I actually know whom they are talking about. by Leading Saints | Apr 27, 2016 | Articles, Bishops, Elders Quorum, Relief Society | 21 comments, In 2016 Leading Saints conducted a survey about ward mothers day gifts. That cost a war pension. I recommend that you take President Eyrings approach and assume that the women to whom you are speaking are doing their best, but that often their very best means just barely hanging on. I dont want to hear Sister Becks controversial mothers who know talk, or president bensons talk come home talk. Perhaps the reason so many women have an aversion to an all Sacrament Mtg. We go to church to grow closer to the Savior, not to get treats or recognition. Diabetic others, for example. Thanks for thinking of me, my youngest bishop son! The main message I gathered from reviewing this survey is, keep it simple, dont try tohave specific female messages during the meetings, and then serve a fun refreshment in the third hourjust because. Not a perfect example but I was striving for some other options besides stripling warriors moms. *As I type this, I know for a fact that someone out there is going to respond that their ward gives men plants for Fathers Day every year. Another angle in this specific holidayhas been brewing for a while. For those in Europe, is Mothers Day celebrated to the same awful-gut-wrenching extent? . I choose to stay away for most MDs and all FD. Nourishing their souls instead of feeding their bodies? please please please please dont pull us teachers from Primary for pie or talking. Some of the stories were simple acts of kindness and some were extraordinary examples of love and sacrifice. Most detested thing, 3rd hour chatting and eating. Also, try to remember that not all the women in the congregation are mothers - which may be because they can't be. I always had this huge chip on my shoulder about refusing the flowers because I wasnt a mom (I had kids later in life), but my own mother would force me to take it because it was a free flower. I dont need to socialize at church. We teach that you are basically good or even great (gods in embryo), that you are responsible for your actions and that you can actually make other people do what is right through prayer and works especially your children, that the sins you accumulate both those of commission and omission are entirely your fault, that Christ is not really in the middle of the picture until you really screw up and commit something unforgiveable like adultery and that you need to try harder to keep every one of those commandments or you are going to lose your reward of having a planet & of having eternal sex , and the celestial DFAC will snatch your children from you and destroy your perfect family sprouting from the buried nuts of polygamy where mother valently hoisted the impossible burdens. But Ive also read this: 40 Behold, ye are little children and ye cannot bear all things now; ye must grow in grace and in the knowledge of the truth. Motherhood is more than bearing children, though it is certainly that. to hear my little kids sing and for my older kids to pass out a flower. Intent matters, and I dont believe the idealism we are fed is meant to hurt, but rather to uplift. THAT is what non-denominational Christian churches do :). It was so honest and hopeful all at once. This talk teaches us how rearing up children in righteousness can help keep them safe in an increasingly wicked world and how what happens in the home can benefit communities and nations. The "Sacrament Meeting Program" app provides users a quick, easy way to create their sacrament meeting programs. Now they never had fought, yet they did not fear death; and they did think more upon the liberty of their fathers than they did upon their . Flowers were also given to anyone who wanted to wear one in honour of their mothers. They would eat honey cakes and give flowers. There are sins that need confessing; I totally agree. But I realize others prefer plants. I had some ideas but didn't want to repeat anything that had already been done from the Primary. But shes never experienced the horrors I have where the local ward nut case talks about how his wife isnt putting out thanks to menopause. Well, I wont bore you with all the mediocre talks over the years, I will just tell you that the best song for MD from the primary children was Armies of Helaman. All Latter-day Saint Youth Need to Hear Ready to Rise, Popular Rapper Says He Wants to Be Baptized into The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, FREE I Can Do All Things Through Christ Sheet Music + Music Video, Latter-day Saint Missionaries Perform Is There Room, Official 2023 Youth Theme Music Video: I Can Do All Things Through Christ, Popular Rapper Says He Wants to Be Baptized into The Church. The speakers were: 70-year-old married sister w/ no children; mid-30s sister who works full-time, dh is the stay-at-home parent, and theyve adopted 2 children through the foster care system; and a single sister. Aim at earth and you get neither. Feel free to disagree with Lewis as well, but I feel like Im in pretty good company at this moment! Church meetings Sacrament Meeting Overview To find a ward near you, try the Meetinghouse Locator, which will also provide sacrament meeting times, driving directions, and contact information. Mormon women are harder on themselves than any other group of ladies I have associated with. Talk topics could be: - examples in the scriptures (Eve, Ruth, Naomi, Esther, Sarah, Mary, Sariah, etc), - early Saints (Lucy Mack, Emma, Eliza R Snow, Aurelia Rogers, etc), - influence of (teachers, nurses, aunts, grandmas, etc). It was an emotional rollercoaster of raised hopes and disappointments. I want to hear about the mother who lost all her children, because she made a lot of mistakes. rockpond I gave a MD talk one year and focused on Emma Smith, Naomi the MIL of Ruth and my daughter who was a young mother at the time. A new Mother's Day song for Mormons - Religion News Service Yes! Yesterday I enjoyed another Mother's Day sacrament meeting, typical with its children's songs, a talk from a young man about how wonderful mothers are, a talk from a sister about how wonderful women are, and a tearful talk from a brother about all the incredible mothers in his life. How about we don't celebrate either at church, but celebrate it in our homes with our mothers and fathers? Father's Day Talk in Sacrament Meeting June 21, 2009. Motherhood as a path to choose to be a better disciple of Christ by caring for those Christ lives.feed my sheep, etc. I believe it is by divine design that the role of motherhood emphasizes the nurturing and teaching of the next generation.. Why? In return, the Lord renews the promised remission of sin and enables Church members to always have his Spirit to be with them (Doctrine and Covenants 20:77). I could send you a PDF of the sheet music, but it's probably too late now for your choir and Primary to prepare in time for Mother's Day. So, I am assigned to give a talk next week. Any Advice? This might be a useful reference in terms of stories about Christ and women (not saying to cite it, just to get scripture references and helpful context): http://www.fairmormon.org/perspectives/fair-conferences/2015-fairmormon-conference/christs-emancipation-of-women-in-the-new-testament. If you want to hear about angel mothers and perfect people, remain in the chapel. Seriously, no one is going to be pleased. Since my mom has unacknowledged mental health issues, this is my oldest sister and a lady in L.A. who I still keep in contact with. At one point they cut down a tree and paraded it into town to symbolize the mother of the Gods (Asherah, anyone?). He offers advice on how young women can look to faithful mother figures as a pattern to follow. Is this really the Mothers Day message I need? Latter-day Saint Life. I think Emma and Naomi are very neglected women in our teachings (understatement considering the general neglect). I get really tired of hearing the stripling warrior passages on Mother's Day. Sorry for the sacrilege I think all women want massages but not sure the church is the right place for it. We got the story about women blessing their cows a couple of years ago. I accidently hit the quote button and so nothing is there..you guys can fill in the blank.. My wife and I will be on an Alaska Cruise. Preparation Print the song pages. Forgive me for not understanding the blessing part of it. I personally am skeptical of ever looking to people for ideals. 1 Dead, 1 Injured in Shooting During LDS Sacrament Meeting in Nevada. I wonder if this phenomenon is uniquely Mormon. I guess plants are pretty and mothers are pretty. The Best LDS Talks on Motherhood | LDS Daily So our ward did 3 talks on Christ with each one saying one sentence of gratitude about their individual moms right before bearing their testimony. Re-reading my comment (101) it sounds very harsh even though that is not how I mean it to sound. Mothers Day gifts at church should be like free t-shirt day at the baseball game. In this talk, Elder Holland focuses on three different experiences that reflect the majestic influence of mothers. The first is a cautionary tale, where a friend who was drifting away from the Church expressed he could not stand the thought of facing his deceased mother. He also shares ways a mother can become the first line of defense against the wiles of the world., RELATED: 30 Inspiring LDS Quotes About Mothers & Motherhood. This has been a big concern for me, as there are many women in the ward who are very sensitive to the Perfect Mother talks, and I didnt want to heap on to their burdens. In the mean time, please, PLEASE, dont go hunting the sisters. She never got her kids back and they never forgave her, and she died of some incurable stress induced disease. Sabbath Day Scriptures Scripture References Doctrine and Covenants 59:9-12 Scripture Study Resources Topical Guide, "Assembly for Worship" This was very informative and interesting. Because disciples can be wayward in their faith we should not celebrate Christmas because it causes too much pain in those who remain more faithful. We know very little about HM and HF really. Thats the last thing a mother needs, responsibility for yet another living thing. lol! (If you want to see an example, search mormon tax exemption on Twitter.) I know some women get upset because they arent mothers, but it doesnt bother me. The bad ones tend to deal withthe big generalities, praisingmotherhood without even pausing to define whether we are speaking of women who have given birth, or womanhood in general. She used several stories from the NT about Christ & his mother Mary to illustrate principles that we can all use to improve our relationships with others. Evry cry of pity heeding, I chuckled, but was not surprised when I saw that chocolate was the most popular! The good talks that I have heard tend toaddressthe details ofan individual womans life, in all its messiness and particularity. Ziff, thank you. Some few are probably actively trying to avoid the gifts, trying hard to not remember the lack thats been rubbed in her face all day long. So I will be going to church on Sunday, even though I never go to church, so I can remember my mother, who was never a Mormon. The other auxiliaries are free to do something, its just the bishopric that doesnt. Just plant a tree and name it after our mothers! Please add to the possibility of what LDS women are dealing with: they didnt have the best mothers themselves, they are the adoptive parents of mothers who, for whatever reason couldnt be a mothers, (adoptees and foster children or adults that have been in foster care could be particularly vulnerable as well); they work outside the home and love it, they work outside the home and hate it, they cant stand being mothers, the list could go on and on. Why shouldn't women be those who teach about the glory of god that is woman? I am the wife of a bishopric member, and I used to love Mothers Day. 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Thank you for being the kind of people you are and doing the things you do. I have had a lot of thoughts about Father's Day because my father passed away on May 23 about a month ago. At first I was wishing that I wasnt, but after thinking and praying about it for a few weeks and speaking with friends and family, Im rather excited about it. Pres Hinckley and apparently Mark has it right. Mothers Day is celebrated, and increasingly commercialized, but my impression of the local situation is that ones obligation to honor ones mother is largely discharged at home. Were here to help! Why do *we* have to have an ideal? I figure maybe in the next life I will be someones Heavenly Mother. So He can be ideal AND real. She was not a perfect mother, but I loved her. "I am a sociopathic perverted mess emotionally and mentally thanks to the influence of my insane codependent mother.'". What My Son Heard on Mother's Day - LDS Women Project Ohand did you say you had an extra ticket??? It seems like every time theres a church scandaland especially one that concerns moneypeople start arguing that the scandal-ridden church (or even churches in general) should lose their tax exemptions. While it addresses questions about how to raise a girl, the talk also discusses the nobility of fatherhood, the influence fathers have on children, how to cherish your wife, and why virtue is so important. Didnt we predict this? It appears that this phenomenon is growing and becoming even more common everywhere in the US church. I come to church to be fed spiritually, and sappy poems and stories are never ever going to measure up to the meat that scriptural examples can provide.
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